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you heard the saying less is more, right? that expression could take on a huge significance for women who are considering a radical procedure to treat breast cancer. new research shows removing a lump may be more effective than removing the whole breast. let's bring in our senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. that defies what a lot of people have thought in the past. what's the significance of this research? why is this? >> a lot of women and even some doctors think, hey, just take off the whole breast. a lot of doctors in the know will tell you, wait a minute. when someone's early stage breast cancer, stage one or stage two, lumpectomy plus radiation is the way to go. this study seems to support that. it suggests, it doesn't prove -- i don't want to use the p word. it suggests that having a lumpectomy and radiation is just as good or perhaps even a little better than having a mastectomy. >> i have a million more questions for you. i think the best thing would be for people -- you always say this -- ask your doctor first,
right, elizabeth? >> ask your doctor what the options are. i've talked to so many women who have breast cancer and the doctor says let's do this. i say, well, did you ask him what other things you can do? there's almost always more than one option. if someone says i want to take your whole breast off, ask, what about a lumpectomy plus radiation? is that possible? >> cnn.com/empowerpatient, a good starting point as well. i know it's a tight fit but it's great information. cnn.com/empow cnn.com/empowerpatient. newsroom international starts right now. welcome to "newsroom international." i'm suzanne malveaux. we are taking you around the world in 60 minutes. unbelievable images out of australia where floodwaters forced these two women to take dramatic action to save a baby. we're going to get the latest on a desperate situation down under. and a story that sounds like
something out of the '50s. space race. iran sends a monkey into orbit. in southern brazil right now three people are under arrest after the tragic nightclub fire that left at least 230 young people dead in santa maria. police are still investigating. and most of the victims died of smoke inhalation. others were trampled. now investigators think the disaster started when the band's fireworks show set the ceiling insulation on fire. the very latest on the tragedy. >> reporter: smoke fill ed the air when the first firefighters entered the nightclub where shirtless men were already trying to rescue some of the injured. emergency vehicles arrived not realizing the extent of the tragedy they faced. chaos and terror among survivors and the bodies of victims all around. the fire broke out at about 2:00 in the morning at a nightclub called kiss in santa maria in
brazil's southern-most state. the club was packed with some 2,000 people, twice its legal capacity, according to officials. >> translator: people who were inside the facility informed us that when they came out that security guards blocked the exit to prevent people there from leaving. that's when the crowd started panicking and the tragedy grew worse. >> reporter: this is santa maria's local gymnasium but it's been turned into a makeshift morgue. there are 100 bodies here, hundreds of families have come together, trying to locate and identify their relatives who were, of course, young people in their late teens, early 20s. they died of asphyxiation and some of them were even trampled to death. as the coffins for the many victims were line d up, investigators searched for the cause of the fire, which tore through the soundproofing insulation in the roof. brazilian president dilma rousseff cut short a summit in chile and headed to santa maria to personally oversee the government's response to the
tragedy. >> to the brazilian people and the people of santa maria, we stand together at this time. even though there's a lot of sadness, we will pull through. >> reporter: by daylight, hospitals in santa maria were full of people looking for relatives among the survivors. >> translator: there are a lot of people scattered around the hospital's different departments as well as in the intensive care units who have not been identified yet. it isn't a big number, but the people waiting outside for news are desperate. >> reporter: it was the end of the summer holiday season in brazil, the last chance to party for many young people, due back at school or work on monday. shasta darlington, cnn, santa maria, brazil. a lot of us heard about the tragedy in brazil and immediately thought about what happened in that nightclub in rhode island. that was almost ten years ago. there, 100 people died at the station nightclub in west warwick where the band great white was performing. big fireworks show started a fire in the soundproofing
material that lined the ceiling and walls. in 1990, 87 people died in a fire at the happy land social club in the bronx. investigators said it was arson. back in 1977, a fire at the beverly hills supper club in southgate, kentucky killed 165 people. that investigation revealed that was most likely an electrical fire. the most deadly nightclub fire happened in 1972 at the coconut club in boston. 492 people were killed. to this day, the cause of that fire isn't known. a team of voters expected. democrats want it. republicans need it. that is how one senator is describing the new push for immigration reform. one of eight senators, democrats and republicans alike, revealing a new immigration reform plan today. what happens? it includes what they call a tough, but fair path to citizenship for those already living in the united states.
but it hinges on improving border security and also includes an employment verification system that would hold employers accountable if they hire undocumented workers. and also includes a guest worker program to fill the jobs that americans can't or won't do. want to bring in our chief congressional correspondent, on the hill and elizabeth espinoza from our new sister network in los angeles. dana, i'll start off with you. this is one of those things that you heard president bush -- when you and i covered it time and time again, he pushed this plan and finally, finally this is something that is coming together. he and republicans fighting tooth and nail on this. how did this happen? >> well, we actually, as you said, saw this same kind of coming together, the same kind of press conference in the very same room we're going to see this afternoon back in 2007 when george bush was president. and it didn't go anywhere, primarily because of the politics on both sides, but most
specifically on the right. republicans really got absolutely crushed by gop primary voters. case in point was john mccain, standing right behind ted kennedy during that press conference. how did this come to pass? the november elections. we saw the numbers. it has been talked about and talked about since then, the fact that latino voters have been going up as a percentage of the electorate and republicans got fewer than they have in three presidential elections. so it was a real wake-up call we're told, particularly to republicans like john mccain and lindsey graham of south carolina, who had kind of been working on comprehensive immigration reform on and off again. lindsey graham called chuck schumer. they had the first of five meetings. some were after the election. and they set in motion this process, a timetable to have principles now, the end of january, legislative language in march and they hope to have some kind of vote in the senate before the august recess. >> let's talk about the timing of this announcement here.
the president was -- he's going to go to vegas tomorrow and is supposed to outline his immigration reform plan. it almost looks like the senators beat him to it here. is there some sort of strategy in thinking if they lay this out today it's more likely to pass than if the president were to lay it out tomorrow? >> reporter: yes. there's no question about it. the president said in a couple of situations, press conferences, interviews since the election that any time he is on some kind of -- in some kind of meeting or in agreement with a republican that it is instantly poisonous for republicans and there is something to be said for that here in this process, particularly with immigration, which is so incredibly historically toxic in a partisan way. this is something that these bipa bipartisan senators felt that they wanted to do today, knowing full well the president is giving his own speech tomorrow as one source familiar with the discussions going on said, that they hope what it does is give the president's speech and proposals more oomph, because he
can talk about it, knowing that there is genuine bipartisan work going on in the senate. it's just the beginning. there are still a lot of things they haven't worked out like border securities, specifics on that path to citizenship but certainly feel better than i've heard anybody feel here in six, seven years. >> all right. and that very technical term you used, that oomph that's behind this, we'll see. let's bring in elizabeth. this is still pretty divisive here. how does this play out, do you think, when you speak among those in the latino community? >> i think it's a great question. it's brilliant. suzanne, immigration reform by all means is certainly a very controversial topic. we have to address it. we saw what happened in the
november election. president obama paid attention to that voter block. and what happened, the republicans did not receive -- didn't get any feedback from that community. latinos in this country, those that are here haven't been able to really have a pathway to citizenship, who will tell me on the streets here in los angeles, we live in the shadows. we can't have a driver's license. the reason i left everything i know in this country for the american dream, i couldn't put food on the table back home. so this isn't a comfort situation coming here, having to live this way. but they're here now. so regardless of whether you want these folks to stay here or not, this country was built on the hard labor and sweat of so many immigrants. we just happen to be the very latest. irish back in the day. and now it's latinos. i'm very thrilled to see that the president and also, as we've just heard, obviously unveiled this bipartisan plan and this
language. as you can imagine, those dreamers as well, the young students who were brought here when they were 6 months old who, yes, they were born in another country, but they're from here. they speak english better than they speak spanish, which is what cnn latino is about, of course, as well. >> how do you address the criticism that exists today? there are still some folks who say they don't have a right, if they're here illegally, to get in front of the line of those waiting in a legal process to get their citizenship. >> well, i think that's a great question, because the line -- everybody talks about this go back home and stand in line. what is that line? has anybody been there and stood in that line to understand what that really means? when you are in another country, third world country, let's say, where you can't put food on the table and you can't apply for a visa because, one, you don't even have the $200 or whatever it is fee just to apply and have all the -- meet the criteria in order to be considered for a visa or a temporary pass, if you will, to come to this country and you need to feed your
family, yeah, you better believe that you're going to do what you have to do to feed your family. to give them a better life. >> it's a very hot issue still to do this. >> absolutely. you better believe it. >> congratulations. emmy award winning journalist. welcome. >> thank you. >> we appreciate rolling out the sister network today. welcome. congratulations to you. >> absolutely. thank you so much. hope everybody tunes in. >> you can give a plug. it's all right. >> here we go. cnn latino and it's going to be channel 63 here in los angeles. it is called "without limits." we'll be live, like you, 8:00 to 9:00. tonight we have paul rodriguez and we're going to talk about all those issues. in fact, we have an immigration attorney as well that's going to come on and go in depth and analyze all these issues and hopefully, suzanne, we'll have you on. >> i'll be happy to come on. thank you. >> you're invited. >> thanks to dana bash, too.
good to see you. if you want to see more of elizabeth espinosa, airing 3:00 pm to 11:00 pm pacific time in los angeles. if you want to have more information on the immigration reform, also highlighting personal stories of immigrants cnn.com. here is what we're working on this hour of cnn international. droughts, fires and now this. >> unbelievable. that's right, a car. things getting even more desperate in australia. and after decades of deceit, pouring out his heart to oprah winfrey, is lance armstrong lying again? we've got the latest. selections on one plate!mp like mango jalapeño shrimp and parmesan crunch shrimp. just $11.99. offer ends soon! i'm ryon stewart, and i sea food differently. and i was told to call my next of kin.
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lifted to safety. the adults, two women were rescued as well. you see him in that plastic bag. this is happening in australia, in the state of queensland all because of cyclone oswald. it's wreaked havoc and chaos in communities in that state the past few days. we want to bring in michael holmes, our resident aussie there, actually. things are tough there. >> they are. >> you've got terrible, terrible weather, lots and lots of flooding and the potential for much, much more. >> it is. it's not going away. that baby was so small it wouldn't fit into their normal rescue sling. they had to shove it into a bag and zip it up. >> wouldn't you be kind of worried? >> you would, absolutely. it worked out. the baby was fine. cyclone, for those who don't know in this part of the world, it's a hurricane in the south, you know, southern hemisphere. you have this wall of water coming in, winds have been 80, 90 miles an hour in places.
in brisbane, thunderburg, famous place in australia, they've had mandatory evacuations. three deaths have occurred across the state. rock hampton as well. floodwaters are still going up. they won't peak until later today. >> tell us about the pictures we're watching here. i understand there's still thousands of people who are without power and there's still thousands of homes that are still under water? >> and lots of parts of queensland, they've actually had to stop the boat rescues because the water is flowing so fast. they're still doing helicopter rescues, being plucked off their roofs. 2,000 properties under water. you've got nearly 300,000 people without power. it's across a huge area. queensland is like almost a quarter size of the country, like saying a quarter of the size of the continental u.s. it's a massive state. and this weather is heading south as well. >> you've got not only flooding, but fires. can they handle this? >> yes. >> pictures of these poor women. what kind of facilities or
resources do they have? >> they're pretty good at this, yeah. australia is pretty equipped for natural disasters. obviously, you can't do everything. people are losing a lot of property and a lot of sleep as well. they are good at the helicopter rescues, getting people out. there's been evacuations in queensland. warnings out. new south wales, capital, of course, is sydney and a lot of warnings there. >> do you suspect -- does it surprise you when you look at the massive flooding that's occurred there that there's not more people who have actually died? that is unbelievable. >> one was an elderly man, a couple of other people who foolishly tried to cross a creek that was swollen. particularly when you go further south. the irony here, prime minister was talking about floods as she's walking around a bush fire damaged area. because the fires that were just out there a couple of weeks ago. >> it's crazy. >> it is. >> do we think it will last that much longer or is it going to settle down at some point?
>> it is in queensland but it's heading down to the south, 80-mile-an-hour winds and storm surges perhaps there. there's another cyclone predicted 40 days out and there's a heat wave predicted next week. so, australia is just waiting for the horsemen or the apocalypse, locusts. >> not a time to visit australia. >> i don't want to say that. it's still gorgeous. wait a couple of weeks. >> thank you, michael. appreciate it. all eyes were glued to the oprah winfrey interview with armstrong. but was he being completely truthful? some are saying he is still lying. yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick meal, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables,
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egyptian government has approved new laws now, giving the army the right to arrest civilians. president mohamed morsi has declared a state emergency ordered a month-long curfew in cities after days of violence. on saturday, 38 people died when the city of port said erupted into fighting. following the sentencing of 21 locals to death in their roles of the deadliest soccer riot in
egypt's history. 74 people died and 1,000 more injured when fans from both teams rushed the field last year. they bashed each other with rocks and chairs. the case, of course, causing a lot of controversy during egypt's revolution in 2011, well-organized soccer fan clubs became revolutionaries, taking on brutal government forces. when the soccer riots happened, questions and conspiracy theories began to swirl. many believe police allowed the violence to take place as payback. did lance armstrong lie during his oprah winfrey interview? some of his critics think so. armstrong says he stopped doping in 2005 and didn't dope when he made his comeback in 2009 and 2010. director of the u.s. anti-doping agency told "60 minutes" why he thinks armstrong is not telling the truth. >> there's a five-year statute on a fraud criminal charge. so the five years today would have been expired.
however, if the last point of his doping, as we alleged and proved in our recent decision, was in 2010, then the statute has not yet expired and he potentially could be charged with a criminal violation for conspiracy to defraud. >> so, armstrong's lawyer says he is ready now to cooperate with international anti-doping agencies, but he won't be meeting with the u.s. agency before its deadline next week. i want to bring in don rodell to talk about this, anchor on sports, cnn international. when you see the interview, first thing that goes through my mind is why should we believe anything he says, right? >> yeah. >> why wouldn't we think that he's parsing things to his benefit? he has done it for years. >> and denied it so vehementa v for so long. it was very hard to watch that interview and take anything he said seriously. first of all, he didn't tell us anything that we didn't already know. i agree with travis target. there's a convenient thing
saying i was only cheating until 2005 but then nothing after that. you know, the current tour de france winner says i raced against him in 2009. it was absolutely obvious when he was cheating in that race and when he wasn't. and taggart himself says if he wasn't cheating in 2009 and 2010, there's a one in a million chance he's telling the truth. >> can he compete? could he actually compete with the support of the international anti-doping agencies, but not the u.s. doping agency? how does that work? >> there's a u.s. anti-doping agency and there's a world anti-doping agency. he has made it pretty clear he doesn't want to cooperate with the u.s. anti-doping agency, but they'll say you have to deal with usada. we'll take their lead from them. if you want to get your lifetime ban, which armstrong describes as a death sentence, reduced, you'll have to testify under oath with usada and it's taes going to have to be legal. otherwise you're banned for life. armstrong doesn't want to come
back and cycle but does want to compete in ironmans and triathlons and wants to run a marathon when he's 50 years old. he feels he has the right to do that but that's not going to be possible unless he cooperates. >> is there any sign that he is willing to cooperate at this point, to answer more questions under oath? >> i really don't -- he has been given this deadline of february 6th. he has been told if he doesn't cooperate by that time that this lifetime ban will be irreversible. his advisers have said he can't make that. i don't know what he's doing but evidently he has commitments or is busy or frankly just doesn't want to. >> does he have any support? he has his lawyers and wants to move forward. are there people who say he should compete, he should be allowed to compete? >> i don't think so. i mean, really -- really, nochlt his friends and legal team will say, of course, he should. he's fast running out of friends. we've seen that. his sponsors have dropped him. he has stepped out of livestrong. i think a lot of people are looking forward to seeing the
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public thank you from president obama, but was it also an endorsement if she decides to run in 2016? in an interview on cbs' "60 minutes," the president had a lot of praise. >> i just wanted to have a chance to publicly say thank you, cause i think hillary will go down as one of the finest secretary of states we've had.
>> the two also talked about their relationship, a close relationship despite being bitter rivals during the primary campaign. >> i consider hillary a strong friend. >> yeah. i mean, very warm, close. i think there's a sense of understanding that sometimes doesn't even take words, because we have similar views. >> i want to bring in david r h rothkov. wow! my take on this, i covered the campaign. i covered it to the bitter end. and there was no love between the two of them. i have never seen them gush like this. what did you make of the interview? >> well, you're right. at the end of the campaign, it was kind of the bitter end. they were on each other's last nerve. once the president made the move of bringing her into the cabinet, she realized she had to
s subordinate her interest to his and she kept her head down, did a spectacularly good job. by the time now she's exiting, he realizes it was one of his most important choices. >> i want to read a little bit of what you wrote here. cli you say if she wants to be the next president basically the job is hers. clinton has the power to keep potential rivals from raising mon eye or gaining political traction by simply saying i haven't decided what my plans are. she is in control. what does that say for the possibility of other folks waiting in the wings, like biden and cuomo? >> they all have good chances. she's the most popular politician in america, has a 66% approval rating. she has a big, built-in apparatus behind her. she'll have a couple of years to focus and really devote herself to thinking about this campaign.
they've got day jobs. i think a lot of factors in place suggest that she's going to be way out in front of them. and, you know the way the money works, these campaigns take a lot. nobody is going to want to put a lot on the line if they think their candidate is going to be subpoe supplanted by someone like her. >> they were both asked about 2016. kind of coy. >> you guys in the press are incorrigible. i was literally inaugurated four days ago. >> right. >> and you're talking about elections four years from now. >> and i am, as you know, steve, still secretary of state. i'm out of politics and i'm forbidden from even hearing these questions. >> so, david, i've been talking about insiders in the white house, those who are part of the campaign who say, look, bill clinton right now is making sure there's not another barack obama that comes around the next four years, that they're going to
make sure there is a clear path for hillary clinton. what do you make of her response? it sounds like she's -- she's not answering the question but she's not denying it either. >> no, she's not. i thought that was an adorable exchange, right? they're sitting there, saying the things that they have to say. but at the end of the day, everybody knows she's there, she's waiting, she's got her husband there, who is able to support her in a lot of ways. the president wants to finish up his term and not get upstaged. and i think it's natural they said it. but watch and see. i think all the signs suggest she's going to run. and if she runs, she'll be the candidate. and if she's the candidate she'll be pretty tough to beat. >> talking to some of her friends they say she can't help it. she's going to run. it's just something that is going to happen. we'll see how it plays out but i think she's getting ready for 2016. david, thank you again. if you want to read all the article on hillary clinton and the 2016 nomination go to opinion section of cnn.com. and it started, right, with
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graffiti has been discovered now on one of the wonders of ancient architecture, rome's colosseum. lewd drawings put there 1800 careers ago. ben wedeman has more from rome. >> reporter: it's been a while, about 1,400 years since the colosseum hosted any bloody spectacles. since then, earthquakes, scavengers, time and grime have
taken their toll. in a corridor off limits to the public for decades a project to clear away the accumulated dirt and dust has uncovered patches of red plaster dating back to a major repair work done on the colosseum after a massive fire in 217 a.d. despite what you may have seen in the movies, ancient monuments and statues were painted in the most vivid of colors. internal passageways of the colosseum were, in one of the words of the archaeologists here, in technicolor. they long suspected this massive piece of roman architecture was not monochrome says rose ella rea. we have never found proof, she says. thanks to the simple cleaning work, we now know that not only the lower parts of the corridor but also the upper areas had
decorations. red, green, blue and white would have been the colors of choice, but it wasn't just the interior decorators who left their mark here. some unknown fan scrawled some naughty bits on the walls, symbolizing fertility and prosperity in roman times. someone else left a now fated drawing of the crown of laurels given to the victors in the arena. this writing is not an advertisement for wine, but more likely the abbreviation of a common name for gladiators. everything uncovered here this restorer tells me is a clue to the past. even dirt is an important indicator, he says, of use, of negative, of every object's historical phases. and in this case, dirt that has
concealed the colosseum's not just blood spartd but colorful past. ben wedeman, cnn, room. he slipped into a coma seven years ago. now doctors say the brain of former israeli prime minister ariel sharon is active and responding to tests now. we'll take a closer look. ♪ you know my heart burns for you... ♪
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a brain scan has yielded surprising results on former prime minister ariel sharon. several strokes put him in a coma seven years ago, as you might remember. now an advanced mri has been used to scan his brain. >> we know that he can process pictures and pictures of faces and he can even differentiate between, for example, a picture of faces and pictures of houses, pictures of his families to other objects. he can, for example, differentiate between words that were spoken to him by his son compared to noise. >> want to bring in senior medical expert elizabeth cohen to kind of explain this. i remember covering this story when he first fell into a coma and there was a lot of questions about whether or not he would be kept alive or taken off life support. what do they mean when they say he has responded to some of these things? what does that mean? >> i think they're intentionally using a vague word. it's not responding in the way that i'm responding to your question. it's not sort of that level.
>> yeah. >> i spoke to a different israeli -- another israeli doctor who treated him. i'm going to quote his phrases. you have to do that in this situation. it is so specific to each individual patient. he said there was some kind of consciousness, some kind of processing was going on. that was the way he explained it. so let me give you some examples of what they did. dr. friedman sort of alluded to it a second ago. >> sure. >> they would show mr. sharon pictures of houses he wouldn't know, just random houses and theld then they would show him a picture of his own house. areas of his brain lit up that didn't light up with the random houses. they had his son speak to a machine, a modulator, that turned his son's speech into gibberish. instead of speaking real words, he was speaking nonsense words and didn't sound like himself. didn't register in his brain the sea same way when his son actually spoke to him using real words. >> what does this mean? could he come back to life? >> you know, i -- you never want
to predict the future. that's a dicey business to go into. >> that's the question. >> i know but for seven years, he hasn't. he has been in this situation. just because this kind of stimulation registers in the brain does not mean that he's coming back to life. it doesn't mean that he's going to sit up tomorrow and start speaking with his family. it just means that things that are familiar to him are registering in his brain in some way. but he is still not communicating. his family has said for a long time that they felt like something was there. those weren't their words. i'm using that phrase. and i asked the doctor, what did this mean to the family to see this? he said that it was an objective finding to something that they had felt for a long time. >> does this mean potentially that he is getting better, that there is some recovery process that is taking place because things are changing? >> the only way we would truly know that is if they had done this same kind of functional mri on him seven years ago or three
years ago or four years ago and compare the results. the doctor i talked to said they didn't, that this was the first time they had done this. we don't know. he may have been like this for seven years. you could have done this test seven years ago and you would have gotten the same response. so i know we hear that a piece, an area of the brain lights up when he hears his son's voice. that doesn't mean he's getting better necessarily. >> that will be interesting to see what happens next. >> it certainly -- >> people will wonder what does this mean. >> absolutely. and it's going to -- this is such an unusual circumstance where you have someone who is in this state who has lived for so long and for the family that it's so important that they get this information. you just don't see this very often. >> elizabeth, thank you. appreciate it. they never had a warm relationship, president obama has called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu now to congratulate him on his re-election. the president looks forward to working with the israeli government and is committed to
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zimbabwe, you blend them with jazz and you get monoswezi. take a listen. ♪ >> monoswezi hails from countries all over the globe, zimbabwe, mozambique, and sweden. three members are in the house joining us via skype. i hope i got all of your names right. you look so happy, first of all. i've got to tell you. i've never seen a group happier to play a song. just tell me how you got together in the first place.
you guys are from all over the world. >> yeah. it started in 2008 when i lived and worked as part of an exchange program. i met kalu there and went back to norway. and then they came there. >> so you guys all met at a cultural exchange program and you figured out that you had this love for music. tell me how that happened. did you start playing music for each other or how did you actually fuse all these different types of musical selections together? >> when i came to mozambique, i started listening to traditional music from mozambique. it was really fascinating. and it was nice to play with traditional music. >> what about the other two?
what about you guys? jump in. don't be shy. >> okay, jump in. i was in norway and i was teaching there with the same cultural exchange program he just mentioned. i saw the album they had done the year before, i hope. i listened to it and i liked it. i just said i love your music and i didn't know we were actually going to -- later we decided to come together and explain it all with instruments and all that and fabulous came out of it. >> very few women in zimbabwe play that. how did you take up that instrument? what do people think about that in your country, the fact that you're one of the few women who picked up this traditional instrument and decided to play. >> well, you would be amazed. it is getting quite fashionable, actually, to find young women
playing this type. when i started playing it, it wasn't that fashionable just as yet, but we really had to do a lot. we went through a lot of the history in zimbabwe and it's been stigmatized against. it's been looked as an instrument -- they think what you're doing is demoralizing. so many people are beginning to appreciate it so much more and trying to make it popular. now it's getting more popular also. >> we know that the band name translates into one world and that you -- your music reflects that. we'll be looking for your album that drops today. we appreciate your time. congratulations to all of you. thanks again. good to have you. >> thank you. baseball, not just an
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cuba has now lifted many travel restrictions and jose cantreras finally got to go back home. we were there for this reunion in havana. >> reporter: this baseball diamond isn't much to look at. for one cuban legend, it is truly a field of dreams. jose contreras was once a star pitcher in cuba. he was dubbed by castro as the bronze titan. when he defected, he, like all sports stars, who abandoned cuba, was banned from returning. that is, until now. i'm really happy to be back, here with my people, my fans, he said. it is a dream come true. an impossible dream. in january, cuban officials lifted the restrictions for most cubans to travel abroad and gave many living in exile the right
to return. contreras is the first major sports defector under the changed law to come back to visit cuba. with a change in immigration laws, more and more cuban sports stars defected are able to return and no doubt they hope that they'll bring back those dollars. contreras earned tens of millions of dollars, more than all the salaries on cuba's national team combined. he said those big paydays didn't ease the longing he felt to see his family back home. at first, we were missing the past. it was tough. ten years, not seeing my brother, he said. but everyone's good now, just enjoying the moment. a decade outside the island convinced contreras he would be forgotten by his countrymen.
but he can't go anywhere here without people asking for a photo. or being embraced by former teammates. this pickup game draws other legends of cuban baseball. nursing an injury, contreras plays first base instead of pitching. once he recovers, he hopes to return to playing professionally soon. this is hardly the major leagues. after a home run, the play is interrupted to look for the ball. the only one they have. and at the end, no one can even tell you what the score was. for a long lost son of cuba, it doesn't matter. this was more than a game. i'm suzanne malveaux. big day for immigration reform. eight senators, four democrats, four republicans unveiling a new immigration reform plan. that's happening next hour, 2:30
eastern. it includes what they call a tough, but fair path to citizenship for those already living in the united states. but it hinges on improving border security. it also includes an employment verification system that would hold employers accountable if they hire undocumented workers. also includes a guest worker program to fill jobs that americans can't or won't do. senator john mccain says the plan is similar to the one that he actually supported back in 2007. but the climate, the tone now has changed. >> there is a new, i think, appreciation on both sides of the aisle, including maybe more importantly on the republican side of the aisle that we have to enact a comprehensive immigration reform bill. >> during his inaugural address the president said immigration reform would be a major part of his second term agenda. tomorrow the president will make his bush during his speech in las vegas. we'll hear more about immigration reform, of course,
in his state of the union address. we want to talk a little bit about what is taking place at the white house now. police chief and sheriffs from major cities across the country meeting with the president at the white house right now. and they are talking about the administration's gun violence plan. essentially, they include the chiefs of newtown, connecticut, aurora, colorado, and oak creek, wisconsin. that is where, as you know and recall, the recent mass killings took place. you see those pictures there from earlier today, some of those gathered with the president at the table around him. the meeting comes just two days after thousands of americans marched along constitution avenue in washington against gun violence. >> no group is more important for us to listen to than our law enforcement officials. that's where the rubber hits the road. i welcome this opportunity to work with them, to hear their views in terms of what would make the biggest different to prevent something like newtown
or oak creek from happening again. >> want to bring in dan lothian at the white house. you have a very familiar face, familiar guest with you at the white house who attended some of those meetings with the president. one of those police chiefs, i believe it's philadelphia's charles ramsey? >> reporter: that's right. the philadelphia police commissioner was also the police chief here in washington, d.c. thank you for joining me, commissioner ramsey. >> thank you. >> reporter: you had the chance to meet with the president, vice president, police chiefs getting together. is there a consensus about what needs to be done here? >> there's a consensus that something has to be done about gun violence. there's a lot of moving parts when you talk about gun violence. it was a very productive meeting. the president listened. he also explained his position on various issues. the vice president spoke and listened. and we also had secretary napolitano and attorney general holder present as well. i thought it was very, very productive. >> we heard from the newtown police chief, talk about some of the things that he supports such as the ban on assault weapons
and high-capacity magazines. are these some elements that the police chief seems to be in agreement on? >> well, obviously, nothing is going to be 100%, but these are issues that were discussed. there were other issues discussed as well, universal background checks, for example, issues involving the sale and transfer of firearms. a variety of issues that we discussed. what ultimately winds up in legislation, i don't know, beyond the assault weapons ban, obviously, that was just presented. we do understand that something has to be done about gun violence. something has to be done now. we also need to look longer term. maybe taking a more in-depth look at the whole issue of crime in the 21st century, including gun violence. >> what is it at the local level that you need to hear from the white house or from lawmakers? so many times, you know, there's a lot of talk that happens here in washington, but back in the local communities is where the problem is. and they're looking for help from the federal government.
what is it that you need at the local level? >> it's easy to say you need more money. you know, things are tight for everyone, including the federal government. let's use the tools that we currently have. let's get meaningful legislation on the books that's actually going to make a difference. things like universal background checks, which may seem simple on the surface, but is something that would be of help. knowing when a gun is lost or stolen or transferred to another owner. we lose an enormous amount of man hours just to find out it was lost or stolen five, ten years ago. meaningful things can be done relatively soon, i believe. plugging the loopholes that currently exist. there are some things that can be done that i think are low-hanging fruit. >> reporter: every time there's a big shooting, mass shooting, there's discussion about doing something now. what is different this time? >> i think the fact that 20 babies were murdered this time. i think that got people's attention. not only got their attention,
it's going to hold their attention. i believe that the american people are ready for some reasonable changes to occur, so that we can get a better handle on violence in our communities that affect everyone. it's not just the big cities. it's smaller towns now that are experiencing the kind of imbalani violence we saw in newtown and aurora. >> reporter: suzanne, back to you. >> thank you, dan. this one from milwaukee county sheriff, taking a different tactic when it comes to guns. he is encouraging citizens to actually arm themselves. that's right. this is sheriff david clark. he put out this public service announcement on his radio station. and he says, calling 911 is, quote -- i'm quoting here, no longer your best option, because so many officers have been laid off. cnn spoke with the sheriff this morning. here is how he put it. >> we're not putting any more guns on the street. the guns are already there. my message is for law-abiding
citizens in certain situations not to go out and enforce the law. sit inside your home when the wolf's at the door or someone sticks a gun in your face when you're on the street to take your property, there are certain things you can and should do to protect yourself. it's always been my belief that personal safety is an individual responsibility. >> so milwaukee's mayor absolutely furious about this. he released a statement saying apparently sheriff david clarke is audition iing for the next dirty harry movie. not kidding there. moving on, it's hard to believe it was october when superstorm sandy hit new jersey and new york. there are still a lot of folks who are waiting and need help. they have to make repairs, replace their homes. relief could finally be coming in the form of $50 billion in federal aid. jason carroll is on staten island right now. folks are looking to the money. fair to say, $50 billion to be
voted on in the senate later today. certainly it won't deal with the frustration and anger people are having and feeling. they're just trying to get their lives back together and they haven't seen the money. >> reporter: that's because they've been waiting so long. it's been three months for so many people out here in staten island. we were in another street earlier today. right now we moved to topping street. it's the same situation everywhere we go. if you look down the street the there, that looks like a vacant lot. there used to be a house there. it was red tagged and has been condemned. people on this block are still waiting to see what their status will be, if their house will be condemned or if it somehow can be saved. right now, i'm at nicole chatti's house, who lives here with her husband. take a look inside, suzanne. basically this house has been gutted. you, at this point, are still waiting to see if your home will be red tagged. when it comes to financial aid, this is a frustrating topic for you. >> extremely frustrating for all of us. >> reporter: when we talk about
aid coming through, aid trickling down, do you believe even if this financial aid package is passed you will see the benefits of that? >> absolutely not. it's like a giant lollipop that's waiting to be licked and everyone will lick it on the way down. by the time it gets to the people who really need it, there's not going to be enough. >> reporter: tell me about what would help you. what is it that you need at this time that you are not receiving? >> i need my house to be red tagged. i have engineer's reports, architect's reports telling me that the house needs to come down. i need the d.o.b. to cooperate with me on that and red tag it and let it come down. >> reporter: when i spoke to nicole earlier, one story struck me. that's when you had an inspector down in your basement. tell me about what happened at that moment. tell me that story. >> the first one, when he walked in, i walked him toward the cellar doors and he said, i can't go down there. i don't have waterproof shoes on. and i just looked at him like, what are you doing here then? >> reporter: obviously, that's
got to be a moment that made you very angry. also there are moments where you felt at least a little more encoura encouraged. you did receive some help from fema. fema is here in the neighborhood, suzanne. just a few blocks away here in the neighborhood in staten island. you have received some help? >> yes, from fema. if it wasn't for my husband and his hard work we wouldn't be able to pay our mortgage, pay our rent and still live. >> reporter: a lot of people don't realize when this bill bill -- if this financial aid bill is passed it will be up to the city to decide how exactly the money is allocated. mayor, city officials, if any of those folks are listening at this point, what would you want to tell them? >> just treat us as if we were your family. you wouldn't leave your family out in the cold. don't leave us out in the cold. >> reporter: thank you so much for sharing your experience. >> thank you very much. >> reporter: suzanne, the experience of people like nicole chatti a chati and others in staten island, thousands of people in the state of new york and new jersey are dealing with this
same sort of area, gray area. they're waiting for financial aid, still deciding if a house like this should be red tagged and whether or not it can be saved. a lot of questions. this really is the 11th hour for these people. >> jason, it is so familiar, when you listen to those stories. you see folks from hurricane katrina, what folks were going through, this whole experience seven years ago. it's amazing how some things don't change all that much. there's still a lot of red tape they've got to get through to get that money to them. jason, we wish for the very best. thank you very much. here is what we're also working on this hour lebron james heading to the white ho e house. this time it's not to shoot hoops with the president, but the president is welcoming him and, of course, nba champions, the miami heat. we'll bring that to you live. new information in the chandra levy murder case, the man convicted of killing the form former congressional intern now meeting with his lawyers. plus more than 230 people killed in a nightclub fire in brazil. how this is eerily reminiscent
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five years today would have been expired. however if at the last point of his doping, as we alleged and proved in our recent decision, was in 2010, then the statute has not yet expired and he potentially could be charged with a criminal violation for conspiracy to defraud. >> all right. so you have, on the one hand, saying he's going to cooperate with the international anti-doping agencies but will not be meeting with the u.s. anti-doping agency before the deadline. what does that mean in terms of him being prosecuted? >> it means lance armstrong, of course, still looking out for himself and putting himself number one here. he knew if he went in front of millions of people on television and said, i actually did use performance-enhancing drugs in 2009 and 2010, he could be subject to criminal prosecution. so he wasn't going to do that. he was adamant. he said, you know what? after 2005, i didn't use any more performing-enhancing drugs. he is like the boy who cried wolf. all the times that he has lied
and lied repeatedly and now he says, but believe me this time. this time i'm coming clean. and i believe that they have evidence to support the fact that his blood was altered as late as 2009 and 2010. but he's not going to confess to that. another charge that he could be looking at is perjury. you think about the fact that he has testified under oath numerous times and then the moment that he set foot in front of oprah and the television cameras around the world and he said, i lied, he committed perjury. the problem is, again, statute of limitations, suzanne. in most jurisdictions, it's three years for perjury. so, he basically admitted what he could not deny and he denied what he could not admit. it was very convenient for him. >> i want to talk a little bit about this other case we're following, the case of chandra levy. i remember covering this in washington. a 20-year-old former congress i
ional intern. she disappeared in 2001, amid rumors that she had been having an affair with then congressman gary conditt. that was never substantiated. the man convicted of murdering chandra levy, what does this mean for the case? >> there are secretive hearings going on. we don't know what's going on but we do know the judge said he has questions and concerns about safety and we also know it involves the credibility of witnesses. as you might recall, this -- he was convicted largely based on the testimony of a jailhouse informant who said that the defendant confessed the crime to him. there wasn't a lot of scientific evidence or a lot of dna. but he fit the profile of the female joggers who had been attacked in the park on the days lead i leading up to chandra leavy's
atta attack. what we have here is someone else who has come forward who knows some information about this supposed confession or some information about the jailhouse informant that's leading the prosecutors and the judge to take another look at this case to see if, indeed, the right thing happen ed here. >> faith, i thought this case was closed. apparently it is either reopened or has remained open. is that right? >> well, the case -- he has been convicted and is serving time in jail. the bottom line in our criminal justice system here is to get justice. you don't want the wrong person sitting in jail if he's not the person who actually committed the crime. if there's new evidence, a new person who has come forward and it's legitimate and credible, the prosecutors and judge are under a duty and obligation to listen to that evidence to see if the case should be reopened or if, in fact, ts person, indeed, should be released from prison. >> all right. faith jenkins, thank you very much, faith. appreciate it. >> thank you. this is what is left after a nightclub fire, killing more than 230 people in brazil.
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that they've detained but they are going to hold them five days for questioning. most of the fire victims died of smoke inhalation. others were trampled. investigators think the disaster started when the band's fireworks show set the ceiling insulation on fire. we heard about the fire. we immediately, of course, thought about what happened in a nightclub in rhode island almost ten years ago. 100 people died at the station nightclub. this was in west warwick, where the band great white was performing. we're looking back at that disaster in a moment, but first want you to listen to what a survivor of that nightclub fire told cnn this morning. >> i can't believe someone has actually done that in a crowded nightclub again, but also the way that people could not get out the doors, the stampeding. the look on people's faces in the videos, of just the panic, trying to help people get out and the hopelessness of being able -- not being able to help
people escape from that situation. >> another person who survived the rhode island fire says the families of those lost in the br brazil tragedy, they are not alone. >> the 230 that have passed away, those families, they've got a lot -- oh, a lot to do ahead of them. there's a lot that they're going to go through. we want them to know here in rhode island that they're not alone. they are definitely in our thoughts and prayers. >> it is a terrifying scenario, if you can imagine it. you are hanging out with frepds at a nightclub. suddenly, you are trapped by a fire, surrounded by that fire. that rhode island fire we mentioned, it is the most recent example of these deadly nightclub fires that are here in this country. susan candiotti explains. >> reporter: in 2003, 100 people died at the station nightclub in west warwick, rhode island, where the band great white was performing. pyrotechnics ignited soundproofing material.
moek filled the room. in 1990, arson was the cause of the happy land fire in new york, killing 87 people. authorities said the bronx club was operating illegally, two years after it was ordered closed because of safety violations. in 1977, fire at the beverly hills supper club in south gate, kentucky, killed 165 people. among 2,400 waiting for entertainer john davidson to perform, believed to be an electrical fire went undetected at first. there were no fire detectors or sprinklers. at the time, they weren't required. the deadliest nightclub blaze in u.s. history happened in 1942 at the cocoanut grove club in boston. 492 people were killed. the cause of the blaze to this day remains unknown. >> people around the world are sharing their thoughts and prayers online for the victims of the brazil fire and their families. these are just some facebook pages that got started after
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new push for immigration reform picking up speed. next hour, bipartisan group of senators will unveil a plan to overhaul the immigration system. labor organizations, civil rights groups called for action, including those young immigrants who are willing but unable to enter the military. >> they let me know you're undocumented. you can't register.
>> he's willing to fight and die for the united states of america. there's just one problem. the arizona resident does not have legal documents to live in the country. >> if you believe in something and you're willing to die for it, that's all it comes down to. >> reporter: as an immigrant brought to this country by his parents when he was 4, the 19-year-old callfies for what is known as deferred action. president obama's policy allows some young immigrants who meet age, education, criminal background requirements to stay in the country temporarily without fear of deportation, but it does not allow them to serve in the armed forces, which is something that arizona resident maria diaz, is also trying to do. >> would you be willing to join the military yourself? and if you aren't, then why would you turn down somebody who is willing to die for a nation that it's all they have known? >> reporter: diaz was brought to the united states when she was 3 years old and has never lived
anyone else. as an undocumented immigrant she's ineligible for in-state tuition and is looking for an alternative. >> nearly impossible because the tuition rate was three times more than an in-state student. >> reporter: during his inauguration speech, president obama said one of his agendas for his second term is immigration reform. >> our journey is not complete until we bright young students and engineers are listed in our workforce rather than expeled from our country. >> reporter: but those who oppose his policy say current immigration laws need to be enforced and border security improved. only then, they say, can such changes be considered. the president says he doesn't think these laws are enforceable. how on earth will congress be expected to pass a package when no guarantees can be made to the
general public that the laws will be respected? >>raphael romo joins us live. what are their other options? >> the dream act that went to the senate in 2010 and failed. and that's what they've been waiting for. we're talking today about immigration proposals. this is a proposal these young kids have been waiting for since 2005. essentially, what it does or what it would do is kids who were brought to this country by their parents illegally and have never known any other country and speak more english than anything else, they would have an opportunity through an orderly process to apply for permanent residency and eventual ly for citizenship. but again, it's tried a couple of times. different senators from different sides of the aisle have tried different times and it has failed. >> what are their feelings now? they must be frustrated. they keep going through this
process and seem to be on the losing end of it. >> it's a feeling of hopelessness. that is probably the reason why you have seen more and more daring acts by these kids. i remember cover iing the story last year about a sit-in here in georgia. you see kids who go to immigration offices who are specifically in this situation and then you see many others who simply go to a registration office and try their best to get registered at colleges, universities, for selective services, for the military, anything they can think of to make a point. they know they won't be successful. they're just trying to make a point. >> are they hopeful at all that what's taking place at the white house, the fact that you really do have senators, people coming forward saying, look, we are going to offer you something here? >> what they're talking about is momentum. it seems there are willing senators. the president made it very clear in his inauguration speech. and also movements around the country that give them hope.
but, again, till they see the signature on a bill, they really have no other option. >> it's a very heated emotional issue still. there are still some people who do not agree that they should be allowed to become citizens as well? >> it is true. if you talk about the other side of the argument, people say illegal is illegal. they were brought to this country illegally and they should not have a second chance to, what they say, break the law. but i have met with these kids. and what they say is, what am i going to do? i don't know -- really the know the country where i was born. i don't speak any other language besides english. the united states is my country. >> raphael, thank you. appreciate it. lebron james expected to be at the white house soon. the president honoring him and the miami heat for the nba championship. we'll bring that to you live as soon as it starts. oooo! you're crazy. go faster! go faster! go faster! go faster! no! stop...stop...
lebron james made news this weekend after a fan made a half court shot during a miami heat game. james bolted from the huddle to congratula congratulate, hug and tackle the fan. that is the money shot. unbelievable. that guy won, by the way, $75,000. wow, good for him. of course, lebron james is at the white house this hour. he's not hugging or tackling anybody just quite yet. the president will be honoring him along with the miami heat for the nba championship. take a look at live pictures there, as they get ready. we'll bring it to you live as soon as it happens. another big sports story we are following today, super bowl, of course. all this week we're go iing in depth on the nfl, why everybody is psyched up about the big game on sunday, the league is still dealing with long-term issues. right now, the 49ers are in new orleans. they got there just yesterday, in time for some sweet mardi gras parades. mark mckay is also there. when are the ravens arriving?
will they be in time for all the partying that's going on? >> reporter: they won't miss it, suzanne. they will be arriving shortly after a huge sendoff. big rally in baltimore this morning to send off the ravens. so many story lines at this super bowl. we like it, as part of the media members, to cover these story lines. brother versus brother coaching matchup, for the first time ever that will happen inside the super dome sunday. big brother john, against little brother jim. and they will certainly be the featured attraction at media day tomorrow and all week long really. even their parents have a press conference scheduled. that's how big the harbaugh story is. jim's 49ers arrived on sunday, as we did. they were right in the middle of mardi gras. these were the scenes all weekend long here in new orleans. you had parades, floats, beads being tossed, drinking. regular saturday and sunday here in new orleans. new orleans having the super
bowl and mardi gras, they would have it no other way. >> super bowl next weekend, we can't wait. it will be a great time in the city. everybody will be having a lot of fun. >> nfl, we're excited the super bowl is here. can't wait. ta's going to be a great thing for the city. >> the city is electric right now. between, you know, mardi gras, the super bowl, mardi gras had to be pushed up a week. we've got pretty much an entire month of partying, which we're used to. new orleanians can handle it. >> if you think there's a break in the action, there actually will be this week. all those parades have unfolded over the weekend. we'll take a break this week, let the super bowl play out and they'll get started again after the super bowl. >> those are my people there in new orleans. they know how to party. >> reporter: yes, they are. >> after katrina, i remember i was there for the super bowl for the saints and it was magical, a moment so important for te city here. it's going to be a lot of fun. obviously, the weekend.
tell me about the president. i know he was asked about his own feelings about football, the competitiveness and kind of the the danger now that so many people talk about. >> self professed sports fan, meeting with the miami heat at the white house. he has concerns about concussions and says if he had a son, he would have to think twice about him playing football because of the concussion issue. the president weighing in. this is a big issue that the nfl will face during the super bowl week. $300 million in research that both the nfl and players union has spent for brain research. nfl commissioner roger goodell has heard the concerns and certainly won't escape the issue here in new orleans, suzanne. >> let's listen to that, if we can, if we have that sound from the president talking a little bit about the -- i understand we don't have that sound. mark, have a great time. we'll be checking in with you on a regular basis. that's where all the fun is. i'll be calling my relatives,
see if they can say hello to you. thank you, mark. >> reporter: sounds good. the president honoring the nba's miami heat. players are out of uniform, wearing suit and ties, of course, for the visit. there's the introduction. they're saying all cell phones, turn them off. it's about to happen. obama basketball fan in chief. he will be con fwratilationigra team. we'll bring that to you in a couple of minutes. following another story. you think you have a great idea for an app? how a "new york times" writer turned his idea into an app that's become a huge international success. [ lisa ] my name's lisa, and chantix helped me quit.
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president obama honoring the miami heat at the white house. let's listen in. oh, they're just waiting for -- there we go. >> ladies and gentlemen, the president of the united states. >> thank you. thank you. everybody, please, have a seat. have a seat. today, i'm honored to welcome a little up and coming basketball team to the white house called the world champion miami heat.
now, for many teams to come here, this is a lot of cameras in one place. it's a little overwhelming. but for the heat, this is what practice looks like. this is normal. i know this is the first trip for some of these players. but a few of them were here a couple of years ago for a pick-up game on my birthday. now i'm not trying to take all the credit, coach, but i think that it's clear that going up against me prepared them to take on kevin durant and russell westbrook. it sharpened their skills. it gave them the competitive edge that they needed. and i think part of the reason they came back today is they want another shot at the old guy. but first, i have to congratulate the heat on their
well-earned title. you know, this team traveled a long road to get to where they are. in 2011, the heat got all the way to the finals only to come up short. but when you fall, the real test is whether you can ignore the naysayers, pick yourself up and come back stronger. and that's true in basketball, but it's also true in life. that's exactly what these guys did. instead of getting down, they got better. dwyane wade worked on his core. lebron learned some post moves from hakim. batia came on board and they became a more complete team, got to know each other better and trust each other more. and they became more fun to watch. in game four against the thunder last year we saw lebron carried off the floor with cramps only to come back a few minutes later and hit ager of a three-pointer to put the heat ahead. we saw him pull off one of the
great performances, dropping 45 points and had a scary look in his eye. we saw dwyane wade, the heart and soul of this team, continue to do whatever it takes to win, including leading the team in blocks. and at the post game press conferences he dressed well enough to land himself in gq magazine. show them your kicks here, dwyane. if any of you can pull this off other than dwyane wade, let me know. we saw chris bosh get injured but get healthy right at the perfect time and do outstanding work throughout the rest of the playoffs. and it wasn't just the big three. mike miller could barely walk. mike, you look better now. you looked broken down last year. but still hit seven three-pointers in the final
game. i don't know how he did it, because he could not walk. he looked like an old man. mario chalmers earned himself a nickname from dwyane wade, which i am not allowed to repeat. deron howard, grandpa, became the first member of the fab five to win a ring. and coach continually set the tone and kept these guys motivated the entire way. so that team mentality, with everybody doing their part, is what finally put the heat over the top. and it's especially impressive when you think about everything they've had to deal with over the last few years. this team inspired a lot of passions on both sides. and i'm just talking about their dance moves now. we saw that video, lebron. but even though i'm a little disappointed that the bulls didn't make it, i do want to
congratulate the heat for a well-earned championship. lebron said it's about damn time. and i want to thank them for taking the time this afternoon to spend with wounded warriors at walter reed. you guys are heroes to them, but they're heroes to all of us. and let me last thing about these guys. and i mentioned this as we were coming in. there say lot is a lot of focus happens on the court. but what is also important is what happens off the court. i don't know all these guys, but i do know lebron and dwyane and chris, and one of the things i'm proudest of is that they take their roles as fathers seriously. and, you know, for all the young men out there looking up to them all the time, for them to see somebody who cares about their kids, and there for them, day in and day out, that's a good
message to send, a positive message to send and we're very proud of them for that. so, congratulations again to the miami heat. and now we are going to take a picture that makes me look very short. i'm accustomed to it. first i'll ask coach to say a few words. thank you, coach. >> thank you. well, on behalf of mickey aronsohn, pat riley, the entire -- >> the president really a basketball fan in chief doing a little trash talking there with the miami heat, but also congratulating them and also a social message that came along with that, he was praising a couple of members there for being good dads. we'll have more after the break.
you might think of it as a modern day version of the gold rush, but in this version, it is people, folks developing apps for your smartphone and ipad and, of course, the prize could be millions of apps sold around the world. new york times gadget columnist bob tadeshi went undercover to develop an app of his own. it is a kids app called bobo explores light. and there is a twist to it. it became a huge hit. number one app in 12 different countries, even won a bunch of awards. bob joins us now. so, bob, how did you do this? secretly, i just want to develop an app and, you know, retire. how do you do it?
>> yeah. it is not how it works. back in 2009, i started the app smart column for "the times" and we were tracking the boom in apps and everybody was talking about how to develop an app, they wanted to build an app of their own. we figured, all right, let's write about that, how do you actually find a developer, build an app and get it birthed. and so, you know, i sat with that idea for a better part of a year or so and came across a developer named george lavatch in seattle, tremendously talented guy and we talked about collaborating and both of us had a passion for children's education, and figured that the ipad would be a real ideal place to kind of explore some things in teaching children scientific concepts, and so we started down that road and found a real talented illustrator named dean mccaddum in san diego and started pushing in that direction. >> were you shocked that it took off the way it did? >> yeah. i was -- i was absolutely
shocked. going into the process of when we went to release it, i did it under a pseudonym because i didn't want, frankly, i didn't want any preferential treatment from apple because i was covering apple apps. i did it under pseudonym and figured, well, if it didn't hit, i knew how good it was, that was part of the story. there is a lot of developers who put out good stuff and don't get that kind of audience. and when it -- when it took off, i was shocked. it was awesome. >> bob, you have to leave, though? you had to leave "the new york times," leave your job to do this because you wanted to avoid a conflict of interest, right? >> well, sort of. i kept covering apps for another year after this was released, but what i did was i carved ou didn because that would have been a career conflict and didn't want that to pose any problems. i continued on and then have gradually stepped back from the -- from that beat. >> so, bob what is the secret?
tell us, for those of us who are looking for their great app idea, we think we have come up with one and somebody has already done it before, how do you do it? >> i wish it was that easy. it is -- the trick, really, is to find, you know, three legs of the stool. you got to have really great technology, you have to have great art and you've got to have great content and we were lucky in that we had three people who could -- who had expertise in those three areas and who really had a passion for what we were doing. we worked for six months, about 2,000 man hours on this, none of us got paid during that process and we loved what we were doing. so i think, you know, the -- that came through, i think in the product, i think bobo has been a hit partially because i think that sort of passion came through in the end product and, you know, it is easy to build an app, it is hard to build a good one that will really engage people, i think, on the level you're hoping. >> yeah, well, you're getting paid now and you're still
writing. so that's a good thing. you must love your job. congratulations, bob. appreciate it. >> thanks, suzanne. thanks for having me. >> it started off with a dog in the 1950s. but now, check out this little guy, you might be able to see him. he's in the strap there. it is a monkey getting a ride into space. we'll tell you which country sent him there.